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Monday, March 4, 2013

SCIENTOLOGY AND WANKING

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Karen de la Carriere

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Karen de la Carriere • 5 hours ago
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Recently 2 OT VIIIs "on and off the level" complained to me of how Scientology Inc monetizes $$$$$ masturbation $$$$$$. Due to relentless and aggressive "Federal Prosecutor" type interrogation on the Emeter, one single masturbation confessed can cost $3000 in the pay-as-you-go Sec check auditing which has a prefix "Not auditing You" so that the confession can be used to punish you later.
The Church profits $3000 for one single masturbation !
The auditor (counselor) is reported to be adversarial, accusative, disparaging in mood and of course the counseling session will bog down. Nancy Many had a mental breakdown in a similar type session...hers were going for hours and hours a day til breaking point.
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Group confessions that came to be known as "seances."
Tom De Vocht long term Sea org member,
Tom
de Vocht was telling me just before the SP Hole started, in 2002/2003
there was such a thing as "seances'. The Senior Managers would gather in
the big dining hall known as MCI, and one person at a time would be picked on by the
screaming mob. "What are you crimes on David Miscavige ?"
People would give up masturbation as a withold.
Apparently masturbation was big up at INT base as a HUGE criminal type activity !
When
someone wasn't there to confess to masturbation, it would be announced
to the 600-700 staff, that's right, taken right out of the pc
confessional folder to mock the individual. This made the flock scared
to give up anything in a future confessional.
The executives would confess sins they had committed against Miscavige,
reveal their bad thoughts about Scientology and make personal
disclosures, including sexual fantasies. If someone couldn't come up
with a transgression, the others bullied him into admitting something.
Anything.
"And Dave would sit there and listen to it and enjoy the hell out of
it," said De Vocht, who recalled one seance when he said Miscavige
struck executive Marc Yager and threw him to the floor. The seance continued. One day,
"You
see Mary here ? ("Mary") is an example. She's been falsifying her stats
and she's been thinking of fucking me while she sticks her finger up
her butt !"
Imagine the leader of a "religion" talking like that !




Here's a first hand account that made me lol

After I posted the question on Tony's blog




media_lush • 14 hours ago

Can I ask a question of the ex'es about something that has intrigued me for awhile. What was hubbard's take on masturbation? I'm not being flippant, I'm genuinely interested on what he thought about it and given his micro-managing of every aspect of the human personae I'm guessing he must have written something about it.....did he give it a special name? Is it hidden on the tone scale?


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      slappy  media_lush • 12 hours ago

      No special name given. Hubbard wrote in the book "Handbook for Preclears":
      "The facsimiles of an individual can become considerably scrambled by masturbation. Practically all the ape family and Man masturbate. Masturbation is a prohibition result. It couldn’t drive anyone crazy. But it can make the individual pull old sex facsimiles into present time for self-stimulation and opens the door for him to desire facsimiles to be in present time. After awhile he will be pulling pain facsimiles into present time."
      Miscavige has a "thing" about it which is why it's brought up so often. Scilons believe it is an "overt" because that is the prevalent think on the subject.


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        Gerard Plourde  slappy • 11 hours ago

        This passage makes Sarah Palin erudite by comparison.


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          sugarplumfairy  slappy • 12 hours ago

          And people paid him for that crap.. Jeeeeeez..


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            Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack  slappy • 12 hours ago

            You got to trust someone named Slappy referring to a Handbook when he talks about masturbation.
            Nonetheless, I remember being advised (by one of the jack offs in the cult) that it becomes a problem when the fantasies become more meaningful than the reality of sex.


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            richelieu jr  media_lush • 13 hours ago

            I think he called it 'Whipping the little Bishop', 'Petting MIscavige" or 'Giving the Little Dictator the Rehabilitation Rubdown'....


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              • Semper Phi  Victoria Pandora • 10 hours ago

                When I was doing my auditor training at Flag, most of my SO pc's - of both genders - found masturbation overts. I had one session with a teenage girl go almost off the rails because the overt was so hard for her to confront. Personally, I never got it and remember thinking "really? you think it's that much of an issue?" even as I was chasing down all the details. Obviously I was way too reasonable on the subject. The LRH bulletin everyone has to read in their ethics handlings after giving up sex overts in sec checks is called "Pain and Sex." Don't ask me to explain it, because it never made any sense to me.


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                  nobs  Semper Phi • 9 hours ago

                  I had the same reaction when I was doing my student auditing on the Academy levels. I felt so sorry for the younger folks who had very normal sexual urges but were made to feel wrong and dirty for having them. One teen-aged boy thought it was an overt to even look at a girl's breasts. I wanted to pull him aside and tell him to stop worrying about it and enjoy himself. Admiring a woman's body is not an overt. What's also very weird about the attitude around sex is that on the Royal Scotman (later named the Apollo) in the late 60s, the general mindset was screw around as much as you want with whoever you want. It was crazy. And even crazier: there was no access to birth control but not one unwanted pregnancy was reported (in the year I was there). I think it's safe to say that hubtard's later policies were a reaction to this orgiastic atmosphere.


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                sizzle8  media_lush • 7 hours ago

                There are contradictory references. On the one hand, :)) , he said that 2d (sex) activities were no one's business, but on the other hand, masturbation "pulls in mental image pictures" and is therefore not good. Also, in practice, 2d activities are closely controlled, specially in the Sea Org.



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