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Wednesday, December 26, 2012

MOLLYCODDLED CELEBS HAVEN'T GOT A FUCKING CLUE... BECK NO EXCEPTION

Posted on 4:00 AM by Unknown
UPDATE: RELEVANT COMMENTS ADDED

He opened up to Vulture about the self-help theology with more secrets than North Koreareligion, which he says is, "always the last question journalists ask."
He says he does not have any opinion about why so many people seem so interested in it. He says his father was involved in Scientology since before he was born and "has had lots of benefits from it," that "it's just something that I've been around." "Some people," he says, "do yoga, some people get into meditation, a whole half of my family are all Presbyterian and they're very churchgoing, and my grandfather on my mother's side was smoking hash and drinking beer every night.
"Everybody," he continues, "is trying to figure out a way to deal with their issues and things that are unresolved. I mean, some things just don't resolve. But whatever's going to get you through. That's my feeling about it."
So Scientology is a part of his life?
"Yeah," he says, "people in my family do it. I've read books, and I've learned about it. I mean, what I'm doing—I have a job, raising kids, I have friends, I have my interests, so I think my life is pretty full. I'm not off doing some weirdo stuff.
"When there is a consensus about [anything]," he says, "I kind of have to take my own council. Whether you characterize a group of people as probable terrorists, however a media can represent a nationality or religion, there's always more to it. Within that culture there's warlike people, there's beatific, peace-loving people, there's people just trying to make a buck, there's people selfless, greedy …"
So, there are all the regular people Scientology bleeds dry and then there's the celebrities who they treat like royalty/exploit for publicity. And then there's Beck, just doing Beck. Really cool, sounds like a lot of fun for everyone.
I think Beck is a great musician, and he's got moves like a stray cat in heat, but yuck. Other than that, his new album, Beck Hansen's Song Reader, sounds wacky: it's transcribed sheet-music that's not recorded by Beck. I'm not exactly sure what that means but, alright.
http://jezebel.com/5970957/funky-scarecrow-beck-on-scientology-its-just-something-that-ive-been-around
Some of the commentators get it!




FalseFacts and 5 more

Anyone involved with Scientology is a) being taken advantage of, b) contributing to a criminal organization, and c) likely crazy. He has deep pockets, too, so he fits the profile. Luckily Beck is terrible so it's no big loss to society.
And all the people who say it's no different than any other religion don't know anything about it. Being tolerant does not have to apply to every situation, particularly when it's something people shouldn't be tolerant of to begin with. In fact, lots of countries have stopped being tolerant of it. America just hasn't caught up because Scientology still has the IRS by the balls with their threat of thousands of lawsuits, which is how they got tax-exempt status to begin with.




maneki 

If it were really just like Beck says, then I don't think anyone would have a problem with Scientology (besides people who have a problem with any religion that's not their own.) Maybe it's a bit silly that it's based on science fiction novels, but so what? All gods are created by man, but that doesn't mean we can't reach some connection with the divine through their images. As a Pagan lady, I'd have gone with Tolkien's mythology personally (yea Yavanna!) but if someone wants to be a jedi or whatever, go nuts, it's not hurting anybody.
But the "yuck" factors in because of the regulars who join Scientology, lose every last dime they had, are told to break off all contact with their concerned families, and later end up committing suicide. That's, yknow, not cool.




Kevin Tighe • 17 hours ago
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Hey Beck: You know there is no "kind of doing" Scientology. There is no half in and half out. Be a man and own up to what you know. In my case I resigned from Scientology in October 2010. I told Church officials I meant Scientology no harm. I wanted to maintain a good relationship with the Church as a non member. That's simply not in Scientology's DNA. On Christmas Eve 2010 the Church basically told me, "Hey, you can't resign - you're fired (expelled)"! Expulsion from Scientology means no Scientologists can have contact with you - even your own kids. So my kids, who I had spent every Christmas with for 30 years, did not show up for Christmas in 2010 even though they lived but five minutes away from me. My son left the Church ten months later and we were reunited (big smile). As to my daughter, unfortunately, I have not seen or heard from her for over two years even though she lives and works but five minutes from my home. Scientology as it exists today is a sick cult populated by robots like Beck. So in short: Fuck you, Beck.


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      Alanzo  Kevin Tighe • 16 hours ago

      I agree fully, Kevin.
      Scientology celebrities put up a fake front for the cult, and are extremely unethical.
      They are allowing themselves, their names and their likenesses, to be used to lure people into an abusive cult.
      They need to stop it, turn around, and speak out for the victims of Scientology.
      Until no one else can be harmed.
      Alanzo


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        tetloj  Kevin Tighe • 17 hours ago

        Definitely a case of "if you're not part of the solution you are part of the problem"


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          Rick Mycroft  Kevin Tighe • 9 hours ago

          Beck was always been pretty dodgy about his involvement.
          Beck learning to be a loser February 3, 2000, Tim Perlich, NOW Magazine
          When asked if he's aware that his father is a Scientologist, Beck is obviously taken aback and pauses briefly to formulate a response.

          "Um... no comment."

          A split second later, Universal publicist Lani Fumerton, evidently monitoring the conversation on another line, breaks in. "Could we wrap up, please?"

          But it was just getting interesting! For all anyone knows, Beck might be a second-generation Scientologist. There's only one sure way to find out.

          Have you ever taken any Scientology courses yourself?

          "No comment," Beck quickly snaps back, bringing the interview to a halt.


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            John P.  Rick Mycroft • 9 hours ago

            Which one of Hubbard's most cherished principles, showing the ability of Scientology to shape people's ability to communicate, memorialized in a memorably catchy phrase, was illustrated by Beck's non-answers to questions in this interview?
            a) "Confront and Shatter," like what Scientologists can effortlessly do to Suppressive Persons at will.
            b) "Dauntless, defiant and resolute," clearly unafraid of anything. As rap prophet Chill E. B. opines, "Dauntless and defiant./So resolute. There's nothing we can't do." Including giving straight answers to yes-or-no questions about whether you're a Scientologist.
            c) "We Stand Tall," including the inspiring lyrics showing the potential of Scientology to overcome any challenge: "We stand tall, forever strong, we'll live on./We stand tall. knowing the truth will set us free,/and take us from clear to eternity," sung by David Miscavige, giant among men.
            Oh, and by the way, isn't the name "Lani Fumerton" for a publicist about the coolest name for a publicist since the excessively nasal Fran Drescher played "Bobbi Fleckman" in Spinal Tap?


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              richelieu jr  Rick Mycroft • 5 hours ago

              In 'Blown for Good' he talks about growing up across the street from Beck and Channing and playing with them in Scientology housing...


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                1subgenius  Rick Mycroft • 4 hours ago

                They are never proud of their "religion". Interesting.


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                richelieu jr  Kevin Tighe • 5 hours ago

                I should not be considered an expert by any means as it's been two
                decade since I spent any real time with him, and as we all know, a LOT
                can happen in that amount of time, but I spent a lot of time with Beck
                in the early-to-mid 90's, on a social and professional basis and I NEVER
                heard the word Scientology mentioned, not once... Nor did I hear a lot
                of Scientology-speak or anything of that sort.. Beck is definitely kind
                of a strange guy, but I always took that for his 'artsy' side... I spent
                a lot of time with his brother Channing at the time as well, who was
                talking a lot about the 'Church of the SubGenius' and an sort of
                anarchy-based church (as I understood it, and I forget the name), before
                saying he was going to start a religion of his own, so religion was a
                bit in the air...
                Beck does have that sort of 'thousand yard stare' I've seen from other Scientologists, but that's about it...


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                  BuryTheNuts2  richelieu jr • 5 hours ago

                  But maybe the thousand yard stare is a telling affect?
                  Just a question?


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                    richelieu jr  BuryTheNuts2 • 5 hours ago

                    May indeed be, that's why I included that detail..
                    I must say, when news of his being a Scientologist broke, I was stunned,a w ere a bunch of us who considered ourselves his friends... If he is one (and I truly am not saying he isn't), he certainly isn't proselitizing... IN fact, he made no comment one tie when me and my band were complaining about having played at the Celeb Center and them having tried to keep out amps and equipment until we stayed and watched a presentation and 'enjoy(ed) the party and (their) hospitality..' It took threats to call the police to get them to back off...
                    he said nothing pro or con..


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                      1subgenius  richelieu jr • 4 hours ago

                      His brain shut down from cognitive dissonance.
                      All it takes for evil to triumph is for "good" people to do nothing.
                      And he did nothing "pro or con".
                      But thanks for sharing that story, Hopefully you asked yourself why he said nothing when the rest of you felt the need to threaten to call the police.


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                        richelieu jr  1subgenius • 3 hours ago

                        Certainly not at the time as I had no
                        reason to believe he had anything to do with Scientology.. As I said, Even year alter when I found out, it came as a shock to all of us...


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                          1subgenius  richelieu jr • 3 hours ago

                          But, eventually. Thus your presence here.


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                            richelieu jr  1subgenius • 3 hours ago

                            Well, my presence here has nothing to do with Beck, as it happens, but more with my curiousity as to why this group of individuals (? or are they just a 'group'?) would sue me twice for basically doing nothing but lightly mock them in comedy pieces..
                            I am also fascinated by religions, religious belief, and heresy, so...


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                              richelieu jr  richelieu jr • an hour ago

                              It' quite simple really- I am hear because of a curiousity about Scientology that lead to hard feelings against due to the lawsuits;. Only since I have been involved (ever so slightly) in ex-Scientology and Scientology interest group have i heard that Beck is/was one. (as I mentioned, I and my friends were shocked...)
                              This I also find interesting, but as I only learned of it afterward, it is unlikely that it caused my presence and participation...
                              Better?


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                                1subgenius  richelieu jr • 2 hours ago

                                So Beck's a Scientologist who did nothing to protest your treatment by Scientology, and then they sued you twice, but he has nothing to do with why you are here, even though you shared that story, which was quite illustrative by the way.
                                I'm not following that logic, but don't try to help me, I never will. I'm OK with not understanding everything.


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                    sugarplumfairy  Kevin Tighe • 11 hours ago

                    I wish New York had asked beck what he knows about the deaths of artists Theresa Duncan and Jeremy Blake after their tangle with scientology.. That's a story I'd really like to know..


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                      TonyOrtega  sugarplumfairy • 10 hours ago

                      But did they, in fact, "tangle" with Scientology? I know they told friends they were worried about the church, but I've never seen any story that actually explains that there was anything to their worries. What were they supposed to have done that angered the church, and what evidence was there that they actually experienced any harassment?

                  see all comments here: http://tonyortega.org/2012/12/25/scientologys-2012-in-review-eight-days-that-shook-the-world/

                  Tom Cruise Pre-Screens His Support Staff For Elusive Scientology Gene?

                  12/12/2012 10:53 AM ET | Filed under: Wacky, Tacky & True • Tom Cruise

                  tom cruise employees tested scientology katie holmes family

                  The selection process is nearly that intense!
                  While the Jack Reacher star doesn't go so far as to test his minions' blood for traces of Xenu, Tom Cruise does force his otherwise-qualified auxiliary staff of assistants, drivers,
                  hit-men, & estate managers to jump through hoops at the Scientology Celebrity Center in Hollywood!
                  One source close to the family revealed:
                  "Tom and [Katie Holmes] were looking to hire a new estate manager a few years back. They were using a high end Los Angeles employment agency that a lot of A-list celebrities use to hire staff. After going through the first round of interviews with the agency, applicants then had to take a multiple choice test at the Scientology Celebrity Center. The majority of the potential hires weren't Scientologists, but it was testing only and didn't involve any auditing."
                  Wowzers!
                  If one surrounds themselves only with people who already think exactly as they do, there might be a lack of fresh ideas among them!
                  The source continued:
                  "The test took an entire afternoon and included questions such as 'if you saw a car stuck on the train tracks with people inside, and a train approaching, what would you do?'… Another section of the test dealt with math questions. It was a very rigorous, stressful and grueling test."
                  It's safe to assume anyone failing the test is immediately thrown into The Great Pit of Carkoon and left to be slowly digested by a ravenous sarlacc over the course of a thousand years, but what about those who pass?
                  More trials and tribulations!
                  Faux yay!
                  The source admitted:
                  "If an applicant passed the test they were then introduced to Tom's mom and sisters who work for him. It was only after gaining the approval of Tom's family applicants finally got to meet with Tom and Katie, and that was scheduled for a different time and day. It was a very methodical and controlled process. The entire vetting process took well over a month-and-a-half and was extremely secretive. It was like applicants were applying to work for the President of the United States, it was that intense! Background checks, references, no stone was left unturned. The pay for the estate manager of the Bel Air mansion was $90k with full medical benefits."
                  That's a lot of dramz for one job, but working for an A-lister like Tommy boy is the job of a lifetime for some people!
                  As long as they don't violate any Equal Employment Opportunity laws, who are we to judge?


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